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I think it's because even though neighborhoods was somewhat mediocre, it still was on the brink of something good. It was just poorly produced and poorly thought-out.

California just feels like cookie cutter generic pop-punk. Which gets the job done for mainstream radio, but leaves a ton to be desired for the hardcore fans.

I've said it before but if blink continues down this direction of predictable and generic music, I probably won't follow their new music anymore.
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El Salvador wrote:And as a reaction to previous post: Apart from the fact that it's very hard to distinguish what is pop and what is not, there's indeed nothing wrong with pop music. In fact some of the most brilliant, innovative and creative music ever was made by pop bands like The Beatles, Beach Boys, Prince, etc. etc. But why their music still stands out today is because they combined innovation/experimentation with pop themes that everybody can relate to. Something blink at its best moments did brilliantly as well. Since California however they have only those pop themes, and not the experimentation side that added that extra little something. I think the problem people have with California is that lots of songs sound the same on it. They lack the unique character that blink songs had before then, making them sound like just another pop punk band instead of the unique quality of blink-182. There's a couple of songs that stand out, but the vast majority is just basically a carbon copy of the previous one.


This is exactly it, for me. Back in blink's heyday enema and TOYPAJ were novel at the time, glossy pop punk that still had authenticity and bite somehow. Then they throw in Untitled and are somehow able to maintain the catchiness, grow up the aesthetic a bit, and push their sound forward. There was always a combination of catchy/authenticity/innovation which is what I think made blink unique. They were a band that you felt like were no different than you and your buddies in the garage, but their songs were catchier than yours and they still had the chops and the vision to push forward. I think a lot of that authenticity came from Mark and Tom's friendship however, and when that fizzled so did a lot of magic of the band.

Look, I am fine with a band who has been around for decades and hit "legend" status to take some victory laps. I would always rather get new music from my favorite bands than not, even if it doesn't hit the same quality as heyday stuff. Neighborhoods and DED actually, IMO, sounded like a band who had settled in to what they were and are now, who weren't gonna do anything groundbreaking but were going to soldier on. I think if they would have recorded a full record properly like they promised, it would have been REALLY solid.

But this blink iteration feels different, and I think it's because its not a band comfortable with its legacy just doing what they do, but rather a transparent attempt to say "okay what made us successful, let's do that" led by an outsider (Feldmann, not Skiba). It's not authentic. I think the right tact for incorporating Skiba should have been: you guys write what comes naturally, don't try and be anything, and if the final product doesn't feel "blink" enough we'll tweak. Instead, by all accounts it was this crash course in mimicking blink 182, pushed by Feldmann, which came off as inauthentic. Here's to really hoping that they let Skiba and Mark do their thing instead of forcing them into this box next time. It should feel like blink, sure, but I don't think that result necessitates a whip-cracking "WRITE BLINK SONGS" mentality.
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Yea Misery is actually good. One of the better skiba-era songs by far. They actually do the vocal split right - mark sings a low register verse and skiba with the chorus, as opposed to just switching off verses just because - the lyrics aren't corny (no door floor), it has a naturally dark vibe. This is what skiba in blink should sound like
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A problem with California is that the songs have super rad verses but choruses that just seem lazy and generic (i'm thinking of song like Bored to death, Sober, Hey i'm sorry). It's the same with Misery IMO. It is growing on me alot though. Miles better than Parking Lot and most of California. The bridge is probably the best piece of music they have written since Matt joined.
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ILikeBlink182 wrote:A problem with California is that the songs have super rad verses but choruses that just seem lazy and generic (i'm thinking of song like Bored to death, Sober, Hey i'm sorry). It's the same with Misery IMO. It is growing on me alot though. Miles better than Parking Lot and most of California. The bridge is probably the best piece of music they have written since Matt joined.


Mark's lyrics are killing me. This is really the same guy who wrote WYHSB?
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Na Na Na Na wrote:
ILikeBlink182 wrote:A problem with California is that the songs have super rad verses but choruses that just seem lazy and generic (i'm thinking of song like Bored to death, Sober, Hey i'm sorry). It's the same with Misery IMO. It is growing on me alot though. Miles better than Parking Lot and most of California. The bridge is probably the best piece of music they have written since Matt joined.


Mark's lyrics are killing me. This is really the same guy who wrote WYHSB?


Look at his output post-BCR butthurt.

2003: amazing album that is Tom-led but great stuff from Mark, too
2006: amazing album that is totally written by Mark (I think?)
Nothing for 5 years
2011: great album that is Tom-led, decent stuff from Mark
2012: good EP that is Tom-led
2016: garbage album where Mark needs song writers to even write it
2017: same as above

The guy has been trending downwards for like a decade. So no, I wouldn't say it's the same guy.

Anyway, song was better than the normal trite garbage, but still bad. Lyrics were awful, guitar work is bland and the intro is pretty similar to No Future and all those other songs. Bridge is fine melody wise, but lyrics are terrible.
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