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Re: California Official Discussion

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Looking at more credible publications for reviews/rating on this album, as a whole, it's been pretty well received. I was actually surprised.
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Elevator wrote:But hey, pardon me for trying to be objective here. Maybe I should just say "Fuck Tom, he's dead to me, burn his ashes and piss on his grave for ever existing."

Elevator wrote:Haha yeah, fuck Tom! What a pompous shithead.

Elevator wrote:fuck Tom.

Elevator wrote:Yeah, I hope Tom dies and stuff for breaking up that band I like.

Re: California Official Discussion

#244
Ok, I've finally found a few hours of free time. Downloaded the album, got my headphones. Gonna listen to this mutha front to back. Not heard BTD or any of the songs before so it will all probably be a huge blur the first couple of times through, but the moment I've been waiting months, even years for, is finally here.
Back in about 42 minutes, 36 seconds...
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Re: California Official Discussion

#245
The good: Cynical, Los Angeles, Sober

The okay: No Future, Bored To Death, The Only Thing That Matters, Kings of the Weekend

The bad: Everything else

Overall this album was incredibly boring and shallow. The whole thing felt like a big slog of uninspired music made just for the sake of making music. I feel like they tried way too hard to be 2001 blink-182 and be the opposite of what Tom would have wanted and it shows, ending up with a bland sound that almost feels forced. The guitars on this record were boring and unmemorable. In a rock album, that's not good. That's like saying the sound design on an electronic album was bad. It bodes badly. The risks that they took failed miserably (California) just as often as they somewhat succeeded (Los Angeles).

I don't like Neighborhoods at all, but I do think it was a more interesting album than this one, for better and for worse at times.

There was a magic that happened with this band while recording and writing in 2003 that they will never be able to replicate, unfortunately. The untitled record was a perfect mix of forward thinking, good songwriting (for blink-182) and nostalgia. I never wanted to say it but I think the magic of blink-182 died with Jerry Finn.

If you try to go back in time 15 years and stay there for 80% of your record, it's not going to work. I doubt I am going to make any attempt to listen to this album again, and honestly I doubt I'm going to care much about blink-182 again unless Tom returns to the band, because while I think Matt is a great musician, I don't think this album was a good blink-182 record--his imprint on it feels too safe, as if he doesn't want to step on anyone's toes--and I don't think it was even a good record in general because it's far too cliche for my taste.

Re: California Official Discussion

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saltygrapes wrote: I doubt I am going to make any attempt to listen to this album again, and honestly I doubt I'm going to care much about blink-182 again unless Tom returns to the band


I am interested to see the overall level of shits people give about this album. Regardless if you love Tom, hate Tom, or are brand new to blink, are you interest enough to even turn the album on? And how many people will give up on the album after a couple listens?

I assume this album will attract the pop-punk bros in high school, but I wonder how many old school fans will still be spinning this album in a few months.
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Re: California Official Discussion

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Fentoozler wrote:Oh cool, there's another Cure reference on the album. A line from She's Out of Her Mind mentions The Head on the Door, a Cure album. :D Makes me enjoy California even more.

That's partly why I love that song! Cause that's arguably my favorite album from The Cure! :) (Well... It at least has my favorite song. "Inbetween Days!")
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Re: California Official Discussion

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So far I'm really digging Cynical, Home is Such a Lonely Place, Bored to Death, Left Alone and I think there's another one but I forget. The choruses in Cynical and Home are fantastic and I still love the breakdown in Bored to Death. The Only Thing That Matters also has glimpses of a Dude Ranch era sound, but it doesn't quite get there. I can't help but feel like the rest of the album though is just forgettable pop-punk. It's not bad, it's just uninspired. It sounds derivative of bands who are derivative of blink. It's a shame the California lyrics and the She's Out of Her Mind prechorus are so awful, otherwise those songs might have been alright. It's also kind of frustrating that Mark doesn't really have any stand out vocals on this record. Any melody that sounds like it requires even the slightest amount of effort was deferred to Skiba.

The Los Angeles chorus melody also reminds me too much of Centuries by Fallout Boy, and the intro to No Future is almost the same as She Said, She Said by the Beatles. Not to mention the tracks themselves seem to copy off of each other. The Bored to Death intro sounds like it's recycled for No Future and San Diego even if they're slightly different, Kings of the Weekend has the After Midnight hi hat beat, and how many songs follow the Mark v1, Skiba v2 pattern? Everyone is screaming on the floor, "she said" a lot on this album just like every other album, no one likes their home. And half the tracks are filled with those nauseating woahohs and nanas that got old 15 years ago. I remember people shitting on Tom for his ladadas, but it doesn't look like he was the problem.

I gotta say I agree with Elevator that there seems to be no purpose to this album. They wanted to make an album so they did, but they didn't have anything to say and it shows. Feldman's style of trying to capture the music in the moment without giving it much thought backfires as we have a very shallow album. Even back on Dude Ranch despite it's light-hearted melodies and style, there were songs that were deep and had lyrics that meant something. I can't see this album having any staying power. I'll most likely add the few songs I like into my playlist and forget the rest of the album ever existed.

Re: California Official Discussion

#252
First listen faves: Sober and San Diego.

I'd been hoping for a heavier album but considering it's definitely not that, i fucking love it!!!
It's got so many hooks. So many songs feel like they are gonna be so much fun to scream along to in the car.

Don't mind all the na na nas and woah woahs, or the songs all starting with Mark. Thing I did notice is they kinda whore out that echo response vocal (the kind Tom uses on his rendition of the Feeling This chorus).

But yeah, absolutely gonna blast the shit out of this for the foreseeable future. It seems so upbeat and immediate musically, and catchier than AIDS. I'm relieved! (Still interested to see what the darker/heavier unused songs were like too though).
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Re: California Official Discussion

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StrongTower182 wrote:
Fentoozler wrote:Oh cool, there's another Cure reference on the album. A line from She's Out of Her Mind mentions The Head on the Door, a Cure album. :D Makes me enjoy California even more.

That's partly why I love that song! Cause that's arguably my favorite album from The Cure! :) (Well... It at least has my favorite song. "Inbetween Days!")


It's a great album, but not my favorite of theirs. It's very poppy, and I'm not sure if a disturbed goth girl would obsess over losing it, but I suppose "I lost my Pornography" would sound weird and misleading. :D

Re: California Official Discussion

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frisky wrote:
saltygrapes wrote: I doubt I am going to make any attempt to listen to this album again, and honestly I doubt I'm going to care much about blink-182 again unless Tom returns to the band


I am interested to see the overall level of shits people give about this album. Regardless if you love Tom, hate Tom, or are brand new to blink, are you interest enough to even turn the album on? And how many people will give up on the album after a couple listens?

I assume this album will attract the pop-punk bros in high school, but I wonder how many old school fans will still be spinning this album in a few months.


I'm not a Tom guy at all, but like you mention it's really not about Tom; for me it's the uninspiring songwriting and general direction of the sound.

I became really concerned listening to some of the interviews about the writing and recording process where they'd say "yeah we went in and wrote three songs in a day! John has us work so fast!" etc. ... that was okay in 2001, but this is 2016 and people expect more from music.

I think The Dream Walker was a fifteen times better album than California.

Re: California Official Discussion

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Tim. wrote:I gotta say I agree with Elevator that there seems to be no purpose to this album. They wanted to make an album so they did, but they didn't have anything to say and it shows. Feldman's style of trying to capture the music in the moment without giving it much thought backfires as we have a very shallow album. Even back on Dude Ranch despite it's light-hearted melodies and style, there were songs that were deep and had lyrics that meant something. I can't see this album having any staying power. I'll most likely add the few songs I like into my playlist and forget the rest of the album ever existed.


Yep I agree with this too.

Most of the ideas songwriting-wise seem underdeveloped, and the sound is uninspiring as a whole.

Re: California Official Discussion

#256
I wanna hear the songs Mark, Matt, and Travis wrote before they went into the studio with Feldy. Probably sounds more like blink mixed with alkaline trio. A bit darker and more emo.

I agree that California feels uninspired. None of the lyrics mean anything, and you can definitely tell their were other songwriters involved which is also pretty lame.

Besides all that though, it's a pretty catchy album and it will probably end up getting more radio time than previous blink albums. And anything close to pop-punk on mainstream radio is a win for me.

Still, songs like Sober are god awful. Sounds like a country pop song. It's terrible.

But songs like Cynical and The Only Thing That Matters are awesome, and have really rad choruses.

All in all...

Maybe a 7/10... Sure I'll go with that for now.
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Re: California Official Discussion

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Waggy wrote:I wanna hear the songs Mark, Matt, and Travis wrote before they went into the studio with Feldy. Probably sounds more like blink mixed with alkaline trio. A bit darker and more emo.


According to an interview Mark did a couple weeks ago, the songs were actually just demoed ideas on a hard drive. It didn't sound like they fleshed out a whole song yet, before Feldman arrived.
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Re: California Official Discussion

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frisky wrote:
Waggy wrote:I wanna hear the songs Mark, Matt, and Travis wrote before they went into the studio with Feldy. Probably sounds more like blink mixed with alkaline trio. A bit darker and more emo.


According to an interview Mark did a couple weeks ago, the songs were actually just demoed ideas on a hard drive. It didn't sound like they fleshed out a whole song yet, before Feldman arrived.

Ahh, I see. Still... I'd like to hear what Matt, Mark, and Travis could write without an outside source.
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Re: California Official Discussion

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Still waiting on that Ep...
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Elevator wrote:But hey, pardon me for trying to be objective here. Maybe I should just say "Fuck Tom, he's dead to me, burn his ashes and piss on his grave for ever existing."

Elevator wrote:Haha yeah, fuck Tom! What a pompous shithead.

Elevator wrote:fuck Tom.

Elevator wrote:Yeah, I hope Tom dies and stuff for breaking up that band I like.

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