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Bon Iver - 22, A Million

Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2016 4:57 pm
by Kyle
So it leaked today, and I gotta say, working with Kanye during the Yeezus era definitely sculpted Justin's vision for this project. God bless Kanye. Such a wildly different/out of left field direction. And it's gold. Best of Bon Iver so far IMO.

Re: Bon Iver - 22, A Million

Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2016 5:34 pm
by yodda
Heard a couple of the tracks
eh
are there any songs that don't have piercingly high vocals? (not a fan of his voice when it's that high - just my personal preference)

Re: Bon Iver - 22, A Million

Posted: Tue Aug 30, 2016 1:18 pm
by Kyle
yodda wrote:Heard a couple of the tracks
eh
are there any songs that don't have piercingly high vocals? (not a fan of his voice when it's that high - just my personal preference)

Which songs did you listen to?

If I had to make a recommendation beside saying "the whole album", I'd suggest 10dEAThbREast, 33 "GOD", 00000 Million and 21 M♢♢N WATER.

Re: Bon Iver - 22, A Million

Posted: Fri Sep 02, 2016 10:53 pm
by Muttweed182
I really liked it. I was telling yodda that it was a cool out of nowhere direction for him to take and I respect that even if it was bad. The style suits his voice as well so that's a definite plus

Re: Bon Iver - 22, A Million

Posted: Fri Sep 02, 2016 11:19 pm
by yodda
I'm sorry
but to me, this music just wreaks of "oh this music is so hot and edgy, right now"
not a fan of what I've heard so far

Kyle wrote: I'd suggest 10dEAThbREast, 33 "GOD", 00000 Million and 21 M♢♢N WATER.


Also I'm surprised that the first song you recommended to me is one where he is singing in his stupid black Micky Mouse voice.

Re: Bon Iver - 22, A Million

Posted: Sat Sep 03, 2016 2:17 pm
by Kyle
Muttweed182 wrote:I really liked it. I was telling yodda that it was a cool out of nowhere direction for him to take and I respect that even if it was bad. The style suits his voice as well so that's a definite plus


I agree, it's so out of left field. I was a huge fan of his features on Kanye's MBDTF and Yeezus especially. Glad he dedicated a whole work to that kind of direction. Also think he crafted it very well. So many musicians have good intentions in trying things that are so polarizing and different but few can actually pull it off.

yodda wrote:I'm sorry
but to me, this music just wreaks of "oh this music is so hot and edgy, right now"
not a fan of what I've heard so far

Kyle wrote: I'd suggest 10dEAThbREast, 33 "GOD", 00000 Million and 21 M♢♢N WATER.


Also I'm surprised that the first song you recommended to me is one where he is singing in his stupid black Micky Mouse voice.


I hate this surge of everyone on the internet calling anything that isn't the mainstream movement right no "edgy". So cringe.

That aside, yodda, I can understand if you don't like it but I've followed Justin Vernon's projects from pretty much his beginnings (idk where you stand in that spectrum) and this is really the first time in his personal work where he's really broken out of his shell and did something less conventional thatnhis go to wallowing genre (which I love as well). Bon Iver has always been "out there" or "indie" or "underground folk" or whatever people want to call him, but this direction, to me, was really surprising and worked out well.

This album took three years to make so I don't consider him hopping on any bandwagon or trying to be like anyone else. Don't forget though that this is the dude who wrote his grainy love ballads in the isolation of a cabin in the hills. He's been out there since he's been anything at all. :headlikeafuckingorange:

Re: Bon Iver - 22, A Million

Posted: Sat Sep 03, 2016 5:49 pm
by yodda
Kyle wrote:
I hate this surge of everyone on the internet calling anything that isn't the mainstream movement right no "edgy". So cringe.

That aside, yodda, I can understand if you don't like it but I've followed Justin Vernon's projects from pretty much his beginnings (idk where you stand in that spectrum) and this is really the first time in his personal work where he's really broken out of his shell and did something less conventional thatnhis go to wallowing genre (which I love as well). Bon Iver has always been "out there" or "indie" or "underground folk" or whatever people want to call him, but this direction, to me, was really surprising and worked out well.

This album took three years to make so I don't consider him hopping on any bandwagon or trying to be like anyone else. Don't forget though that this is the dude who wrote his grainy love ballads in the isolation of a cabin in the hills. He's been out there since he's been anything at all. :headlikeafuckingorange:

My point was that everyone else in the mainstream thinks it sounds "edgy". However, I don't especially think it is all that exciting and aspects of it remind me of mainstream music.
From what I've heard of Bon Iver, he's okay - I just get turned off by that voice of his - he has a super goofy sounding falsetto and it's hard for me to get past that.
I appreciate him pushing himself creatively and from press releases and whatever he sounds like a nice enough dude, but from what I've heard these songs rely heavily on a whacky production style and less on creative songwriting with staying power.

Re: Bon Iver - 22, A Million

Posted: Sat Sep 03, 2016 10:27 pm
by Kyle
yodda wrote:
Kyle wrote:
I hate this surge of everyone on the internet calling anything that isn't the mainstream movement right no "edgy". So cringe.

That aside, yodda, I can understand if you don't like it but I've followed Justin Vernon's projects from pretty much his beginnings (idk where you stand in that spectrum) and this is really the first time in his personal work where he's really broken out of his shell and did something less conventional thatnhis go to wallowing genre (which I love as well). Bon Iver has always been "out there" or "indie" or "underground folk" or whatever people want to call him, but this direction, to me, was really surprising and worked out well.

This album took three years to make so I don't consider him hopping on any bandwagon or trying to be like anyone else. Don't forget though that this is the dude who wrote his grainy love ballads in the isolation of a cabin in the hills. He's been out there since he's been anything at all. :headlikeafuckingorange:

My point was that everyone else in the mainstream thinks it sounds "edgy". However, I don't especially think it is all that exciting and aspects of it remind me of mainstream music.
From what I've heard of Bon Iver, he's okay - I just get turned off by that voice of his - he has a super goofy sounding falsetto and it's hard for me to get past that.
I appreciate him pushing himself creatively and from press releases and whatever he sounds like a nice enough dude, but from what I've heard these songs rely heavily on a whacky production style and less on creative songwriting with staying power.



You gotta read the lyrics sheets dude, the symbolism and craft is so apparent (to me at least). I can understand you not liking his voice though, based on the other music we mutually love, Justin Vernon is very far off and out of that spectrum.

I'm very into full force production driven approaches especially with bands that look to do something different from the rest of their prior discography. Unconventional approaches in any aspect though really get me interested in any band trying to break a mold, whether on their first try, or 5th. Maybe go back and listen to the Blood Bank EP? It's hard to appreciate this album fully if you weren't completely immersed in his earlier work. Again though, it's not for everyone (the same way mostly everyone hates Yeezus besides me) so I respect your opinion regardless.

Re: Bon Iver - 22, A Million

Posted: Sat Sep 03, 2016 10:37 pm
by yodda
^From what I've seen most people really like Yeezus - I think that's why this music turns me off - the chipmunk vocals, RnB style vocals, sampling and auto-tune lead stuff is really close to Kanye - who I am not a fan of.
And I'm not being all negative towards this album because "it's not my genre" - I feel like something in the same musical ball park as this 22 whatever thing is Sufjan Steven's Age of Adz - an album that really, I think, received not as much attention as it should have. The 26 minute closer on that record is better than a lot of artist's entire body of work. Also, it has auto-tune and crazy blips and all that staticy/glitchy production that people are getting off on with this new Bon Iver. The difference is there's a lot more interesting melodies and changes and dynamics within the music.

THis is the track if you are interested:


Re: Bon Iver - 22, A Million

Posted: Sat Sep 03, 2016 10:56 pm
by Kyle
Kanye stans are pretty against Yeezus but they take it at face value and don't look at it from an artist, innovative direction in hip hop. I love kanye and to see an album like that follow mainstream appeal in the MBDTF and Cruel Summer/Watch the Throne releases was just really refreshing. Maybe that's why I appreciate this album so much too. It was heavily influenced by his work with Kanye during that era of his work so that's another huge reason for the shift in direction.

I'm familiar with Sufjan and this album. That album specifically is great work but at the same time, I wouldn't compare the two because they have slightly different target of appeal. My mood wouldn't be the same listening to both of them either. I guess it really just comes down to preference though at the end of the day. *kanye shrug*

Re: Bon Iver - 22, A Million

Posted: Mon Sep 05, 2016 12:46 pm
by Jeremy

I'm just going to leave this here. Not from the new album but still pretty spectacular.

I've heard of couple of songs off the new album so far. I really like 22 (Over Soon).

Re: Bon Iver - 22, A Million

Posted: Mon Sep 05, 2016 5:30 pm
by Kyle
Jeremy wrote:
I'm just going to leave this here. Not from the new album but still pretty spectacular.

I've heard of couple of songs off the new album so far. I really like 22 (Over Soon).

Ay Jeremy coming out of nowhere to help the cause. Saw this performance a little while back and it's still a classic. Too. Much. Talent.

Let me know what you think of the album once you get through it. There's too few people I trust to give a genuine review.

Re: Bon Iver - 22, A Million

Posted: Wed Sep 07, 2016 5:34 am
by doitforthekids
Of the 3 I've heard, this will probably be my favourite Bon Iver record. Other stuff is really nice but sometimes a little to #sadboi for me.

Re: Bon Iver - 22, A Million

Posted: Sat Sep 10, 2016 6:53 am
by Marco
IT LEAKED???????

Re: Bon Iver - 22, A Million

Posted: Sun Sep 11, 2016 8:09 am
by Kyle
doitforthekids wrote:Of the 3 I've heard, this will probably be my favourite Bon Iver record. Other stuff is really nice but sometimes a little to #sadboi for me.

:cheers: :cheers: :cheers:

Marco wrote:IT LEAKED???????

Yeah, like 2 weeks ago lol.

Re: Bon Iver - 22, A Million

Posted: Wed Sep 14, 2016 9:08 am
by Jeremy
Got tickets to see Bon Iver in February!

Re: Bon Iver - 22, A Million

Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2016 12:43 pm
by Marco
Kyle wrote:
Marco wrote:IT LEAKED???????

Yeah, like 2 weeks ago lol.

had no fucking idea. i'm so behind stuff lately

mind pm'ing a link for a friend of mine? ;)

Re: Bon Iver - 22, A Million

Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2016 12:47 pm
by Marco
Jeremy wrote:Got tickets to see Bon Iver in February!

bummed they don't have a date here :\

Re: Bon Iver - 22, A Million

Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2016 2:17 pm
by Jeremy
Hopefully they'll come over to Italy at some point. Pretty lucky to get tickets to a venue with 3k capacity!

Re: Bon Iver - 22, A Million

Posted: Tue Sep 20, 2016 9:26 pm
by Kyle
Marco wrote:
Kyle wrote:
Marco wrote:IT LEAKED???????

Yeah, like 2 weeks ago lol.

had no fucking idea. i'm so behind stuff lately

mind pm'ing a link for a friend of mine? ;)

It's been surprising well sensored. You're better off waiting for the release and listening to the highest quality available.
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